How can you make a new violin and bow sound better?
Instruments: How can you make a new violin and bow sound better? (Especially the bow)
From Angelica Cantu
Posted December 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM
I'm extremely happy because I just got a new violin! It's really beautiful, but it sounds kind of...fuzzy. So last night I decided to practice my new violin with my old bow 3/4 bow to see if maybe that would change the sound and it did! It sounded a tad bit softer but the sound was so rich and clear!
However I really don't want to get into the habit of playing a full size violin with a 3/4 bow. Is there any way to make a new full size bow straight out of the package sound better? (Yes I already put rosin on it, but that made it even fuzzier.)
From Brian Kelly
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 03:15 AM
The new bow will take a while to settle in while the rosin takes to the hairs.
The other point to consider is that perhaps the new bow is not of the same quality as your old bow. Even two cheap $50 bows can vary in quality. But I would give it a few weeks before passing judgement on the new bow.
As for the violin : play it is much as you can. They usually improve with playing. The extent of the transformation can be quite amazing sometimes.
Thanks Brian! I will try to play my new instrument as much as possible.
Angelica, it's a bit like making new friends--you need to learn how your bow and your violin want to sound. Just keep practicing, playing, and listening. They'll change, you'll all grow. Much happiness.
When I got my current bow, I had the same problem of it sounding 'fuzzy'. I was really disappointed as it was a carbon fiber bow and I had had high hopes for it. It took forever to take any rosin and make some sensible sound. I called my teacher and he too was a bit puzzled. He had a few suggestions, of which didn't work and I ended taking it to the local (if you can call a 2-hr. drive local!) Becker's violin shop and had them take a look at it. They went and cleaned my bow. It fixed the problem and I was thrilled! They explained that sometimes a new bow has a special coating put on the hair that can make it difficult to pick up the rosin and one usually ends up putting on too much. Cleaning the bow took off the coating and the excess rosin and gave me that clear, clean sound that I had been so looking forward to. And, it didn't cost me a cent. :)
Thank you Marjory! You really have a good point there :)
I think your right Cheyne, because when I applied rosin to my new bow, there was barely any rosin on my strings. Maybe I do need to get it cleaned. Thanks for the suggestion!
From Scott Cole
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 09:02 PM
In my experience, fuzziness can be caused by excess rosin. Personally, I wouldn't bother cleaning the bow as any excess rosin will work itself off anyway. What I do is clean the strings with alcohol (those little prepackaged pads) and that usually does the trick. do not clean bow hairs with alcohol or you will end up with a gummy mess.
However, some bows are simply fuzzy. I sold a fine french bow for just that reason. It sounded fuzzy and indistinct on a wide range of fiddles old and new. If bows in do "settle in," I've never seen it. Mostly they seem to draw the sound they draw, regardless of fiddle.
Perhaps you simply are not accostomed to the additional length of the new full size bow? Switching back to the 3/4 is your "comfort zone" maybe?
The longer bow has different balance, the stroke is longer, etc, etc....
Perhaps just some additional time and familiarity will sort it out. Have you tried other full sized bows as a comparison?
Thank you John, I'll try staying with my bow for a at least month and if it doesn't change, I'll probably be looking for a new one.
Seraphim that's probably true because I have had my 3/4 for more than 2 years, however I don't feel like I struggle with it. I have played my violin with my friend's bow and it felt really different but that's mainly because hers is wooden instead of carbon which is the one I have.
From Sue Bechler
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:57 PM
I am guessing you bought an "outfit" somewhere? There are good ones out there, and good deals but if you didn't have an opportunity to play on several violins, and then match a bow to the one you liked best, that is something to do next time. Certainly you can swap out the bow more easily than starting over, unless your outfit came from a retail store that would exchange violin and/or bow if didn't play on several already.
Yes I bought my intstrument in Antonio Strad. Hopefully if my bow hasn't adjusted I'll go back and have it checked, but it looks like I'm learning the secrets on changing my technique when it comes to bow stroke so that the fuzziness won't stay there. It's maybe just something I need to get used to.