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Learning Violin and Studying at Uni???

Technique and Practicing: Will I be able to learn violin whist studying at university. I'm not sure ill be able to find the amount of time to practice, and have the timetable to schedule reliable lessons.

From Vaughan Harvey
Posted June 16, 2012 at 01:53 AM

Hello Everyone;

I am thinking of learning to play the violin, however I'm not sure its possible whilst studying at uni.
I'm 20 years old living in Brisbane, Australia.
I am studying engineering in my 3rd year, where most of my free time is spent at uni doing assignments or in classes. This being said, I don't know if I will be able to find enough time to practice everyday (since my schedule is constantly changing due to assessment and workload). (I usually go to the gym once a day for around an hour, however during exam block I cannot find the time to do this, therefore would not be able to practice during this time (usually 2-4 weeks))

Another point of concern is finding a teacher who is flexible enough to understand that my assessment comes first, and if I need to stay at uni late to complete that is my first priority. It will also be hard to schedule in a lesson due to the points mentioned above (since my schedule is constantly changing).
I'm not sure its fair to ask a violin teacher to be this flexible with their lessons either?

I want to learn the violin for myself, with no goals to be in a orchestra or achieve a 'professional' level. (my only musical background was playing trumpet in primary school, although I can read simple sheet music)

With all that being said, do you think its plausible to start learning the violin whilst studying at uni (and not impacting my study or grades) or should I wait till I graduate with a job and consider learning then?

I would really love your feedback on this :)

From Paul Deck
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 02:11 AM
The hardest part will probably be finding a teacher amenable to your situation. But it's not impossible to schedule an occasional lesson, as long as you're willing to take your lesson at either the start or end of the teacher's workday, or to take a lesson when s/he's had a cancellation. So ... you will need to be flexible too.

If you are a beginner I don't see that there will be a huge problem because you will not face the same expectations that an advanced player your age would.

From Vaughan Harvey
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 04:44 AM
Thank you for your response :)

It could be a challenge finding a flexible teacher, especially since there are very few in my local area.
Hopefully I will not be discouraged and will begin my long road to musical fulfilment :P

From Cara Taggart
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 10:57 AM
What suburb do you live in? I also live in brisbane and i am secretary of the old chapter of AUSTA (Australian association of string teachers). We can try and put you in contact with teachers in you area :-)
From Pirisino Romain
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 11:09 AM
I don't know how Australian uni. look like, but in France you'd have plenty of time to learn. Moreover, practicing 1/2hours a day is a great relief.
Do not hesitate ;)
From marjory lange
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 01:26 PM
If the AUSTA doesn't work out for finding you a teacher, you might see if there's a grad student in music at your university who might be amenable to helping you.

And I agree with the pp that practicing is a great way to relieve stress. It's not like you need hours and hours at the beginning; you need consistency more. There's no rush, after all, in your progress. Sounds a great idea.

From Paul Deck
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 04:11 PM
Since you are starting out I will also offer the advice that you videotape all your lessons especially if they are going to be less than weekly. Look for other threads where people have given lists of what you need to start out right ... including stuff you might not have thought of like a full-length mirror.

And an unsolicited caution: This is not an inexpensive hobby.

From Elizabeth Musil
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 06:25 PM
I was actually in a similar boat a couple of years ago - adult learner, no professional goals, just wanting to play for fun. I started lessons about a year before I began grad school and kept taking lessons after I started studying full-time as well as teaching as a TA. Studying DOES NOT leave a lot of extra time - however, if you want to.....go for it!!! I am really glad I kept taking lessons while studying, and playing often provided a nice, non-academic fun activity to relax with. If you are planning to wait for lessons until you finish studying because of time....you'll probably never start, because you're never going to have time!! This is what they never tell you when growing up... :(

The trick is to manage your time and to not be upset or feel bad if sometimes, especially around exams, there just isn't time to practice. Sometimes I went several weeks in a row without touching my violin. But you can still make progress, no matter how small! I often carried my violin around to classes with me so I could practice right after class in the music building. I also took lessons in the music building on campus, which was really convenient - had I had to go somewhere else for them, it probably wouldn't have worked.

Find a good teacher. I suggest trying to find a music student, or recent grad, who is willing to teach on-campus. They will generally be more flexible and willing to work with you and your schedule. And enjoy every minute that you can find to play, because it is definately worth it!

From Trevor Jennings
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 07:13 PM
I was in a similar situation in my early 20s when I was studying part-time for science and professional qualifications connected with my job while I was working 9-5, 5 days a week. My cello playing, and some other activities, had perforce to go on the back burner (which on the rare occasions when it was not turned down low, was turned off!) for a few years until I qualified.

When I returned to music my cello had lain untouched in its case for about 3 years. After a couple of weeks getting back into practice it was like I'd never got off the bus, and I was invited to play in the first desk of the cellos in a local symphony orchestra. But I did have grade 8 (distinction) under my belt before I left school, so the basics were still there.

Since that experience I've never worried about being away from an instrument for a period of time (usually holidays), because I know I can pick it up again from where I left off.

From Vaughan Harvey
Posted on June 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Wow. Thank you all for your inspiring responses :)
I particularly like the idea of playing/practising as a way of relaxing during stressful uni periods (which in engineering is usually the entire 13 week semester :P)
I hope ill be able to manage some time for practice, although I was faced with a similar scenario when I began going to the gym on a daily basis. For most of the semester I've managed to keep it up, however during particularly stressful times I have given it a miss for days-weeks at a time. (Although I wont need to leave the house to practice the violin, so ill have more opportunities to fit in practice time)

I live on the north side of Brisbane, around the chermside west area. I have been looking on the music teacher register for Brisbane, and found Tamsyn Eastgate lives close to me. ( but I'm sure you know you need to find a teacher to fit the student, which might not be the one that lives closest :P )
Ill look at getting a violin during the mid-year break in a week or so. I know it has probably been asked a thousand times on this site, but could you recommend a good beginner instrument?
I have been looking at local luthiers in my area, and found the Caprice student violin from Ilja Grawert looks like an ideal starting instrument. (The question was posed more towards Cara, however feel free to offer advice towards or against this instrument)

I will definitely have a look for those discussions on here. I wrote a general list of things I will need to start out, however I had not thought of a mirror at all. :P
Yea I'm aware this is a somewhat expensive hobby, however it looks like one of the most rewarding and fulfilling hobby's as well, so I would gladly pay the price for the enjoyment and personal fulfilment.

It is inspiring to know that even if I take breaks for exams or other important times, I will still retain 'most' of my playing skills. :)

Ahhh I am so excited about this. :)
I told one of my uni friends about wanting to play violin (he plays guitars in a band), and he tried at every possible moment to convince me I should be playing a guitar instead. (I don't think he appreciates the complexity and beauty of a violin :P )

Once again, thank you all for your responses and advice. I had been reading a few posts on here before making my own, and I knew as soon as I posted my story, I would be convinced this is something I want to do. These forums are dangerous things. :P

From Alex Cheng
Posted on June 17, 2012 at 05:33 PM
From my experience, the third year in engineering is the most toughest. With that being said, when I was studying engineering, I always found time to practice an hour a day on the weekdays and two hours on the weekends in addition to working out everyday for an hour and doing other things as well; so it is doable. The toughest part is learning to create a balanced schedule (studying, free time, lunch, etc.) and I only learned how to effectively study after my third year.
I don't know what kind of university you attend and whether or not they have a music school but when I attended a public university, the one benefit of me getting lessons at the university was that lessons were cheap. I paid a total of $100/semester for lessons with the TA for about a year and the same when I was studying with the professor for the next 2 years. A steal in my opinion! Now, granted I was not a beginner so your mileage may very in regards to getting accepted into a studio.
My recommendation, before you start venturing out taking private lessons, would be to ask your music department, if your school has one, to see if they can offer lessons to beginners. In my school there was a string project that taught beginners and was affiliated with my university. Perhaps, there is one at your school.
From nietha handastya
Posted on June 19, 2012 at 02:59 AM
Hi Vaughan

I read your post and at once, i was like "this sounds like me!". I'm 21 and an uni student. I started my violin when i was 19, on my first semester. Luckily, my campus have an orchestra which give free violin lesson! I came with zero knowledge about music (except for recorder and pianica lesson when i was on primary school). My family is not a big fan of music so practically, i have no chance to practice at all, except for 2 hours session at campus once a week. But then, i began to bring store my violin at campus. So that on every break between classes, I'd just get my violin and etude book, run to the parking building (the highest floor when car rarely park), and start practicing for about 30 minutes before my next class start. It's working for me. Kinda tiring, though. But it's worth it. When I'm home, i can do my assignments and homework and etc. And when I'm at campus, i can attend my classes, practice violin, and do a part time job as librarian.:) and because you're not aiming to be a professional, the pressure is not as heavy. All you need is a teacher who can correct your practice result once a week. Try it. :) every campus have a "quite spot" where no one come. Whether it's a parking lot, parking building, rooftop, or another spaces :)

Cheers

Nietha

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