From Stephen Brivati
Posted February 21, 2007 at 06:31 AM
A bit off topic, but I read in my latest ASTA Journal that there are noises being made to move to a graded exam system modeled on ABRSM or RCM...I already passed on my AJ to one of my students, and I can't remember what was stated...does anybody have any information?
For an example, if you take a look at the Fugue from Sonata No.1, Galamian say to play the fugue motive (up-down-up-down-up-down-up-down-up) whereas Szeryng edits this as (up-down-up-down-up-up-down-updown)
Hope that answers your question
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I compared with my conservatory. The peices are similar but the scales are more challenging at the conservatory I attend (for all the levels). We also have 2 studies unstead of just one.
I am grade 9 ASTA for the peices but more than grade 10 ASTA for the scales. How weird?
Of course, I know that it fluctuates within these levels as many students me included could not do things like Mendelshon well... We pick in the other peices "acceptable" for that level... : ) At Mc Gill, Tartini Devil trill is in the list, no way I could ever do the fast parts even in my dreams!
For scales, per example, at our conservatory (which is good but not at all a prodigy "place"), we are asked at grade 9-10 to do:
Scales 3 oct in all keys major, minor melodic and harmonic. (two different bowing patterns)
Arpegios 3 oct all keys major and minor (two different bowings)
7th dominant and diminished 3 oct in all keys (two different bowings)
Two chromatic scales (2 imposed keys) 3 oct (two different bowings)
Double stops (they chose the keys):
An Octave scale 2 oct major and minor
A Thirds scale 2 oct major and minor
A Sixths scale 2 oct major and minor
It's quite much scales...
But ASTA looks like a very good program too! It's always fun to see where schools and students rank on other teaching requirement charts!
I imagine though that places like Julliard must have higher standards than both ASTA and a normal conservatory like I attend???
I'm not sure if it applies so much in conservatories, Anne-Marie, but in other academic areas, quite often the "top" schools are less rigourous than more 'normal' institutions; as if the 'lesser' places have to show how really tough they are to look better. It's always seemed very peculiar to me, but I see it over and over again in the requirements for faculty at my univ. compared with those at more prestigious institutions. Reputations are made from very odd things sometimes.
Marjory perhaps that's true...
There are more scales required to learn and play at the Mc Gill conservatory collegial 2 exam (which is an exam for amateurs or the "community" as they tell) (the scales are those I described above) than to enter at Mc Gill University in music!
They don't even have double stops, chromatics or 7th dominants/diminished... (but of course they can play show off things if they want. But many teacher tell that scales are actually harder than peices and that the typical student plays better his peices than scales...)
Sometimes life is ironic and I don't understand? : )
But sometimes it's not ironic. Here, some universities really have easier entrence requirements than the top ones. Just as I doubt that Julliard program is easier than a normal music school?
But I'm guetting off topic here!
And I am totally off the scaling system, since I am only playing and performing pieces that I like...(which in principle is only romantic sonatas; now one can argue if I play anything enough well).
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