Good G string??

October 1, 2016 at 06:07 AM · Hi! This is my first post ever (yay!).

I would like to know what are your recommendations for a G string. I just can't find one that I really really like :( I have a Pirastro Gold E, A and D are Dominants.

Thank you in advance!

Replies (40)

October 1, 2016 at 06:14 AM · It depends entirely on your violin.

October 1, 2016 at 08:08 AM · if you like the Dominant A and D you should do fine with a Dominant G, or have you already tried that??

October 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM · It might be worth experimenting with a gut-cored G, for greater flexibility and resonance - but bear in mind what Peter says.

In the UK the most immediately accessible gut-cored Gs are the Pirastro Eudoxa and Chorda, the latter being slightly cheaper. My preference is for the Chorda G because, along with its brother Chorda gut D, I find it works so well with a steel E and A. But there again, bear in mind what Peter says.

October 1, 2016 at 11:50 AM · Pirastro Passiones have been my new favorite set for awhile. Also likes obligatos on my last violin but not as much on the one I have now. really do need to try different ones and find what works for you and your violin.

October 1, 2016 at 11:52 AM · I've just overpaid at an auction for over 100 gut-core plated As and over 100 Gs by La Bella - but no Ds :( !! I'm waiting to see if a Pirastro Gold will match. I'm sure the silver pate Gs are going to make great Xmas tree decorations!

October 1, 2016 at 01:26 PM · It all depends if you are trying to compensate for a weak G string, or just want a relatively neutral string.

Second best is Oliv.

Close alternative, and probably more compatible with Dominants is Obligato G. This, unless your violin already has a dark sound.

Give Zyex medium gauge a try. It is way less expensive from the above 2 and may in fact work great.

(The best G string is the one .... I must not write about here.)

October 1, 2016 at 01:49 PM · Yes, as Trevor says, the gut covered G's may be great. But also remember that the E string can have a big effect on all the other strings. This is why the violin itself, the E and the other strings can all upset the balance and sound. It is a bit of a minefield. But once you get the right combination, things get a lot better.

Some people can have a great talent in knowing which strings a violin may sound best with - even before they have been put on. I wish I had that gift.

October 1, 2016 at 02:50 PM · Agree with previous posters that it depends on your instrument. We can't hear yours; but if we could, we would probably each have a different G to recommend.

Regarding Dominant G: I tried it about 10 years ago in mittel -- medium -- gauge on one of my fiddles. It sounded robust and had good bass response, but it wasn't always reliable in the high positions -- e.g., 7th and 8th.

Two other G's in the Thomastik line -- Peter Infeld and Infeld Red -- gave clearer response in high positions on this instrument. The PI was a little edgier here. I prefer IR, which I find a little darker. FWIW, my other strings on this instrument: D - Peter Infeld aluminum; A - Vision Solo; E - Goldbrokat medium.

Eudoxa came up earlier. If you're a modern player, I recommend the stiff version. My first tryout, also about 10 years ago, was regular D-G. The tone broke or crushed too easily. When I switched to stiff D-G, I had quicker response and more robust tone and could use intense bow pressure when needed -- without the tone breaking or crushing.

October 1, 2016 at 03:04 PM · I second Jim's recommendation on PI G.

I'm currently using dominant in A and D. The dominant G is good but was slightly unfocused. The PI is more focused and edgier, which I like a lot.

October 1, 2016 at 03:11 PM · Victoria Secret makes some nice G-Strings :-)

October 1, 2016 at 04:13 PM · Oliv rigid is my favorite.

October 1, 2016 at 05:06 PM · Freud had a friend who preferred the Dominant G ;-)

October 1, 2016 at 07:32 PM · The G string is perhaps the most difficult string in the violin, only good violins will sound good on the Upper positions (7th. position)in the G string.

October 1, 2016 at 07:43 PM · If depth is lacking with Dominant G, then it is most likely a violin problem, not a string problem. If a soundpost adjustment cannot improve things, pretty much nothing short of regraduation will fix this. But if you go for regraduation, you can end up with something completely unrecognizable. I have tried internal sanding in the past with limited success. Basically, when buying a violin, if you don't like the sound of the bottom string, look for another.

October 1, 2016 at 09:04 PM · Kevin,

agree with one exception: a new bass bar may in fact solve the problem.

R

October 1, 2016 at 09:54 PM · Lyndon yes I have, but I just don't get that nice deep tone that I like.

October 1, 2016 at 10:00 PM · Thank you to everyone who responded, I'm taking my violin to the luthier for a casual cleaning this month so I would definately ask him to check the soundpost and bass bar. As for strings I'm going to give Eudoxa, Chorda and Infield a try to start and then continue from there.

October 1, 2016 at 11:47 PM · I will recommend you Dominant G-Strings. Dominant D. Dominant A. Pirasto E.

Almost all of our members in the orchestra use the Usual pattern. Only 3 people have different combinations or 1 solid brand but... The rest have the Dominant-Pirastro combination. For the violas... That's already a different talk.

-Martha

October 2, 2016 at 01:07 AM · Maybe the problem is the Dominant D & A. None of the instruments I have ever used have preferred them. For nylon core strings try D'Addarrio Pro-Arte or Corelli (Saverez) they are brighter and cheaper. It's hard to improve upon the real gut-core G.

~jq

October 2, 2016 at 01:43 AM · Well, some replies reminded me on another possible solution:

"Viennese medley": Thomastik Infield Red G, Blue D, Dominant A, special E (or other suitable E string).

I am positive that mixing gut strings with synthetics will not work. The only exception would be Obligato (G,D ) with Eudoxa (A).

Do not waste your money.

October 2, 2016 at 10:27 AM · However, mixing gut G and D with steel A and E is well-known and usually works.

October 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM · I tried a set of Olives once and loved them except for the A which was a stability nightmare for me. I plan on trying them again sometime with a Russian A. The Olives cost so much money though. I have been using Warchal strings for a couple of years as they are inexpensive and sound good on my instrument.

October 2, 2016 at 02:06 PM · Passione As work well with PI D and Pirazzi G. Of course, some would say that's not normal gut.

October 2, 2016 at 09:17 PM ·

October 2, 2016 at 09:17 PM · I can see that Rocky doesn't agree, but I think Dominants tend to blend pretty well with Eudoxas and Olivs in terms of feel, response, and also sound.

October 3, 2016 at 03:15 AM · Jeff, try Warchal's Avantgarde A instead of the Russian A. I think it has a richer sound. It's spiraled like the Amber E.

October 3, 2016 at 05:46 PM · I've had a lot of luck on my violin with Jargar E (medium), Vision Solo A, and PI D (Aluminum) and G (Silver). Kind of pricey, so I've been alternating with Dominants with a Jargar medium E when I change strings every 2-3 months (~150 hours of playing).

Strangely, the recommended combo from VI.com of using the forte E didn't work well, but I only tried it once and will try it again: I just changed to dominants a week ago and now that they're broken in I'll give the forte a week to compare to the medium e.

April 15, 2017 at 10:34 PM · I have plenty of experience with strings, so if the OP can tell me what kind of tonal quality he/she is looking for, I can give a few recommendations. For example, if you need a brighter sound, or a darker sound, a richer sound, deeper, fuller, smoother, or any combination of tonal qualities. Until you tell me what tonal quality(ies), I won't cloud you with all these available options.

April 16, 2017 at 12:14 AM · Darian, that's true. If you want to change some smallish nuances of tone, then strings can do the trick. However, if it's something like "G string lacks depth," something's got to be up with the violin. Plus, everyone perceives sound differently.

April 16, 2017 at 04:01 AM · Darian, the OP hasn't visited the site for a few months already. Don't think a response is in waiting!

But - What G string do you find easily responsive? Clear, full sound? Warmer tone (viola-like)?

April 16, 2017 at 05:32 AM · Passione G is very nice.

April 17, 2017 at 02:03 PM · @ G.A.

what's your current setup?

To my experience, for 'Clear and full" and responsive I would suggest VTS, and Pi. If you like lower tension, maybe then Tonica and Violino (violino could either do the trick or not at all). The order I mentioned could be roughly from loudest to the most subtle Of those four, I've found VTS the most complex as a set, but they change a lot... yet it cuts through and you can get some clarity. The Violino is the warmer but not that complex, yet is some instruments it may sound fuzzy. The Pi -if they match your instrument- just sing...

April 17, 2017 at 07:24 PM · I like corelli cantiga, medium tension. The G and D are amazing on my instruments. It doesnt mean it will suit yours, but if you are not on a budget, i would say its worth a try.

I dont really like their E though, and the A is just OK.

April 18, 2017 at 10:56 AM · @Bruno, have you tried the Corelli Crystal? how is the Cantiga compared to the Crystal in terms of pliabilty and tension?

April 19, 2017 at 05:11 AM · Mr. Papakonstantinou: I just have plain old Dominants. Don't like them much.

But I'm going to wait another couple months until they finish their life span to buy new ones. For now, I'm just keeping my ears and eyes open for other people's string experiences, so thanks for your ideas.

April 19, 2017 at 07:26 AM · I like the gold winding ep gold on my current fiddle, but currently olay dominant with gold brokat e. The ep gold is as expensive as my complete setup.

I did also like vts, pi is not really what I like on the g (a and e are fine tough). Especially the feeling as they are quite thin.

April 19, 2017 at 07:44 AM · @hermes

In my instrument the cantiga has a lower tone (you might say darker) than the crystal, and i prefer this sound. The tension is also lower. Their D and G ressonate very nicely in my instrument.

I cannot really answer about playability. For me it is about the same, as the weather where i live is really unstable and strongly affects my instrument.

April 19, 2017 at 09:05 AM · Bruno, can you compare them to dominants? I wonder if I should test those, some call them very neutral.

April 19, 2017 at 09:05 AM · Bruno, can you compare them to dominants? I wonder if I should test those, some call them very neutral.

April 19, 2017 at 10:50 PM · @Bruno, thank you for your info...I liked the tone of the Crystal compared to the Dominant, but they felt a little harder under the fingers... (that's why I asked about their being or not more "pliable/soft" under the fingers)

@G.A. maybe you could also experiment with a different gauge of the Dominant...perhaps the light version :)

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