From Sydney Menees Posted from 84.172.229.251 on June 7, 2006 at 5:34 AM (GMT)
Wow! Cool! So, she gets all caught up in the music. I wish I could do that sometimes!
From Elizabeth Chavez Posted from 71.105.89.10 on June 7, 2006 at 6:36 AM (GMT)
awww that sounds like a wonderful student you have there! =]
From Charlie Caldwell Posted from 66.56.6.161 on June 7, 2006 at 3:34 PM (GMT)
That was a funny story.
From Aaron Robertson Posted from 206.170.173.254 on June 7, 2006 at 5:45 PM (GMT)
I agree, it is very funny and cute. And you are doing exactly what needs to be done to correct the problem. I was and still am a person who plays by ear, but to break out of that I had to learn to literally read a passage over and over and over again and force myself to read the music and not go from memory. I can play a song resonably accurate that I hear in a matter of minutes, if the notes are clear. However it really is harder when you go to site read for an audition and you have never heard this piece before and you have not trained yourself on reading. So you are helping her to learn to read and not guess. That is something invalauble.
From Eileen Geriak Posted from 24.177.5.186 on June 7, 2006 at 11:39 PM (GMT)
wonderful story ! Love to hear the girl 10 years from now ! I hope she stays with it. I have the opposite problem as far as reading vs. "hearing". I am so dependant on the music that it's hard for me to play by ear. I can do it but it's hard. When I listen to a piece of music, I can hear all the harmony parts...I just don't know how to play them...lol..but, I've only been at this for a few years. I need much more practice playing by ear. I envy those who can do that. Thanks for the story...and what an insiteful solution to the problem ! :-)
From Karin Lin Posted from 198.182.56.5 on June 8, 2006 at 12:44 AM (GMT)
That is so sweet, Laurie! Wish you were in northern CA---I'd love to have to as my daughter's teacher. :)
From Pauline Lerner Posted from 151.200.53.150 on June 8, 2006 at 6:04 AM (GMT)
Laurie, I can really relate to your story. I have students who are talented and quick learners, up to a point. They learn to read and play the notes, but that's not the same thing as playing music. Their attention wanders, and they sound as if they're not listening to the sounds they make. Perhaps they hear the music correctly in their head, but what's inside their head does not match what comes out of their violin. The problem is often impatience. I keep telling them that it is more important to play smoothly and correctly than to play fast. I have tried many, many things to get them to listen to their own sound, and I have made long lists of what I've tried. I'll be happy to share these with you. Different approaches work well for different students. I've been successful with all of these students except for one. She is driving me nuts because she can play much better than she does play. When I can convince her to play slowly and concentrate on one particular thing (for example, second finger placement or quarter notes vs half notes), she plays correctly once and then zooms ahead and plays terribly. I'm familiar with the technique you described (focus on just one thing and see how far you can go in the piece playing that one thing correctly; other mistakes are OK). I learned about it in William Starr's book "The Suzuki Violinist." It's the one thing I can think of that I haven't tried with her. She gets frustrated very easily and will burst into tears if I try to get her to play the same note(s) correctly more than once. She sounds terrible. Almost all of my students have praised me for being very patient, but I don't have the patience of a saint. Aaaaaargh! Any suggestions?
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Posted from 84.172.229.251 on June 7, 2006 at 5:34 AM (GMT)
Posted from 71.105.89.10 on June 7, 2006 at 6:36 AM (GMT)
Posted from 66.56.6.161 on June 7, 2006 at 3:34 PM (GMT)
Posted from 206.170.173.254 on June 7, 2006 at 5:45 PM (GMT)
Posted from 24.177.5.186 on June 7, 2006 at 11:39 PM (GMT)
I have the opposite problem as far as reading vs. "hearing". I am so dependant on the music that it's hard for me to play by ear. I can do it but it's hard. When I listen to a piece of music, I can hear all the harmony parts...I just don't know how to play them...lol..but, I've only been at this for a few years. I need much more practice playing by ear. I envy those who can do that.
Thanks for the story...and what an insiteful solution to the problem ! :-)
Posted from 198.182.56.5 on June 8, 2006 at 12:44 AM (GMT)
Posted from 151.200.53.150 on June 8, 2006 at 6:04 AM (GMT)