From JUAN MANUEL DE COSIO Posted from 189.134.6.242 on November 4, 2009 at 3:06 PM (GMT)
Extremely useful advice !!
Thanks so much !
From Francesca Rizzardi Posted from 24.5.194.195 on November 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM (GMT)
Buri,
Your statement about keeping the bow from dipping resonated with me. The past few days, I have been practicing Clayton Haslop's adminition that the elbow, wrist, and shoulder should move in the same plane as the bow. These two statements are different ways of saying the same thing. Thank you for your blog (and repeated thanks to Clayton).
Fran Rizzardi
From Anne-Marie Proulx Posted from 76.65.136.21 on November 4, 2009 at 4:20 PM (GMT)
Francheska I know what you mean. My teacher expresses a similar idea as well, she says that if it's not in the same plan and with = pressure, we hear "sausages". Because in her time sausages were all tied one after another in long strips : ) This is even more true in scales because it shows more. She meant non continuous sound but I guess a visual image helps as well! But of course we have to know how to avoid "sausages"...
Thanks for the excellent advice and quote on the natural comfortable position.
Anne-Marie
From Yixi Zhang Posted from 24.68.48.92 on November 5, 2009 at 5:22 AM (GMT)
Thanks Buri!
The bow dipping thing is trickier than I originally thought. On one hand, you want the bow hair to be in full contact with the string so there's no air in the sound unless you intend to make airy sound; on the other hand, you don't want to press/dip in to kill the tone. Recently I played Haydn Quinten string quartet in a weekend chamber retreat. I worked on the sound like crazy on this piece, as everything is pretty exposed being the 1st violinist. I pretty much had to play everything on open strings again and again until I got the right sound before applying the fingers. By doing this for a couple of months, I learned a great deal on bow control and sound production. I think if it weren't for performance, I wouldn't have worked so hard this way. That's maybe why I can't bring myself to work on scales the way you suggested; not yet I must confess.
Thank you for the quote, Buri!
"But, people will do what is comfortable for them, So, If you allow them to, they will just make it up for themselves. `..."
So true! When people make up what's comfortable for them, that's often where things start to go wrong. What's comfortable (such as slouching) can be bad for you. "That is why, you must always return to the `Basics'." That's why we need teacher(s) and prunes.
Yixi
From Yixi Zhang Posted from 24.68.48.92 on November 5, 2009 at 5:25 AM (GMT)
By the way, I don't know if it's my computer or it's this site, I had some problem submitting response. I find if I write more than one paragraph, the website won't respond properly. But if I submit a very short note, it will let me post right away. What I'm doing now is first submit a word, and then hit the 'edit' to put the rest comment in. This works for me. Just thought to share this with you in case you run into the same problem.
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Posted from 189.134.6.242 on November 4, 2009 at 3:06 PM (GMT)
Extremely useful advice !!
Thanks so much !
Posted from 24.5.194.195 on November 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM (GMT)
Buri,
Your statement about keeping the bow from dipping resonated with me. The past few days, I have been practicing Clayton Haslop's adminition that the elbow, wrist, and shoulder should move in the same plane as the bow. These two statements are different ways of saying the same thing. Thank you for your blog (and repeated thanks to Clayton).
Fran Rizzardi
Posted from 76.65.136.21 on November 4, 2009 at 4:20 PM (GMT)
Francheska I know what you mean. My teacher expresses a similar idea as well, she says that if it's not in the same plan and with = pressure, we hear "sausages". Because in her time sausages were all tied one after another in long strips : ) This is even more true in scales because it shows more. She meant non continuous sound but I guess a visual image helps as well! But of course we have to know how to avoid "sausages"...
Thanks for the excellent advice and quote on the natural comfortable position.
Anne-Marie
Posted from 24.68.48.92 on November 5, 2009 at 5:22 AM (GMT)
Posted from 24.68.48.92 on November 5, 2009 at 5:25 AM (GMT)
By the way, I don't know if it's my computer or it's this site, I had some problem submitting response. I find if I write more than one paragraph, the website won't respond properly. But if I submit a very short note, it will let me post right away. What I'm doing now is first submit a word, and then hit the 'edit' to put the rest comment in. This works for me. Just thought to share this with you in case you run into the same problem.