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![]() Avoid THIS Playing PainNovember 18, 2009 at 4:21 PM Just returned from a quick weekend jaunt over to Santa Fe, New Mexico, where I cavorted in the back-country with a friend. On Sunday we ran through snow showers, arriving well above the 10,000 foot level before making the turn for home. From Anne-Marie Proulx
Posted on November 19, 2009 at 12:19 AM Hi, poor Zuckerman. Hope his wonderful playing is not too painful. I agree that the chin is not as important as we think. I, too, as the amateur student I am, was told to secure with the chin... but my neck is very long and when I took off my shoulder rest, I never wanted to put it back on my violin. I just find it so comfortable for the bow arm when the violin is well "seated" on your collarbone. But with this, my long neck and my jaw that is not very wide (I don't have a round face and cheecks to offer full of contact with the chinrest), I just very slightly touch to the chinrest. Of course, I can bend my neck but outch... I hate the feeling of not beeing 100% secure but it works. In fact it's even necessary to lift a little my head off of my violin as I play to change the angle of my violin sometimes (don't know if this is correct however) Happy to hear someone talk officially about that. Thanks for this intersting post! Anne-Marie From Kypros Markou
Posted on November 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM Mr. Clayton, Thank you so much for bringing this subject up. I was fortunate enough to study with Antonio Brosa at the Royal College of Music in London. Mr. Brosa encouraged all his students to play just like you describe Milstein's approach. Sometimes people tell me I can do that because I have a short neck (true) but that's not the point. By not holding the violin in a fixed manner but by balancing the violin between left hand (thumb, side of index finger) a little shoulder (sometimes touching and sometimes not) chin weight (but sometimes extremely light) one holds the violin through a balance that changes according to the needs of the moment. I did also study with Ruggiero Ricci and Max Hobart and they also had a wonderful sense of ease in the way they taught how to handle the violin. Well I am over 60 and have never had neck or back pains from playing the violin. Students resist the idea of not having a "fixed" hold of the violin because it makes them feel insecure. But I would encourage anyone to give it a try with an open mind.
From Corwin Slack
Posted on November 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM When I was 14 and had been playing the violin for a few years I came across the Applebaum book With the Artists. It included an interview with Nathan Milstein where he says that the function of the left hand is to hold up the violin. I couldn't do it but it stuck with me and from time to time I tried it out but it never worked. Finally in 1998 I met a fabulous (almost) self taught violinist who insisted on no chin and shoulder hold and I started my journey. It took 6 months to play without it and 2 years to become comfortable but learning the function of the left hand was HUGE. For me it was the beginning of technique. I didn't have any technique before the change and now I have a technique. My "method" previous to the change could be characterized as habituation. Habituation may work with the very talented fast-twitch prodigies but it didn't work well for me. I credit Milstein's little aphorism quoted by Samuel Applebaum as the little seed that has grown up to be something of a tree. I am very grateful that I found someone who could water that tree. From Connie Sunday
Posted on November 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM In my experience, the violin is held neither by the left hand, nor by the chin, but the combination of the collarbone and shoulder. Holding it by the left hand is also contrary to Suzuki training, as I understand it. Love to have the URL to the YouTube video featuring Zukerman? This entry has been archived and is no longer accepting comments. |
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