Prunes not metronome for regularity.Published: Mar. 16, 2008 at 11:38 PMLast modified: Mar. 16, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Greetings, From Charlie Caldwell
Thank you. I learn so much from your blogs.
Posted via 128.192.193.155 on March 17, 2008 at 2:19 AM From Yixi Zhang
Me too! Posted via 24.68.193.148 on March 17, 2008 at 2:44 AM Buri, I thought I saw somewhere your expressed your reservation on using the metronome but this time I understand your point better. I’m curious what your esteemed colleague would say but for me, using a metronome gives me a structure. Maybe because I grew up with more lyrical and somewhat recitative sort of music (eg., various Chinese operas and soaring folk music), I have a tendency to change rhythm by hanging on to certain notes (expressive ones or the ones I like) too long. Also, using a metronome prevents slowing down or speeding up due to technical ease or difficulty, as you discussed in later part of your blog. Most of all, it helps me to be better structured: just get the basic down, to be able to play in tempo, and to get a clear idea what overall structure of the piece or what it is ‘traditionally’ performed. Of course, the great violinists can do whatever they want with the piece, including tempo variation. Amateurs like I myself should be fully aware of our limits, technically and musically. I’ll allow some tempo freedom only when I’ve actually learned the piece; that is, when I can play it in tune, in tempo, and by heart, or performance ready. Of course, doing it to my accompanist on stage is a different story;) What Mr. Haslop suggested counting out loud is just wonderful. My teacher is also big on that but I can’t count more than three – a disability I’m sure ;) Do I sound argumentative? I tend to do that when I try to think things through out loud. Anyway, I really like plain-speaking teachers (to use Jeremy Chance’s expression)so thank you, Buri, for your straightforward and timely direction! To me, rhythm is even more important than intonation or tone production. What you said make good sense and I’m taking notes and will keep thinking about it.
From Emily Grossman
I love what you wrote here. This is something I've really been studying and experimenting with my students to get them to internalize underlying beats and dissect rhythms. Posted via 209.112.221.127 on March 17, 2008 at 3:54 AM You've used Adventures in Violinland, haven't you? Have you tried out all the levels? I have had a whole lot of fun using the swaying exercises, the word rhythms, and especially how it gradually wades into more complicated stuff like conducting while chanting or saying the rhythms. Conducting and singing/saying my part really helps my own practice, I've found. Anyway, thanks for your blog entry. I'm all excited about counting now.
From Tom Holzman
Buri - you might enjoy this short story written by a member of my community orchestra: http://www.kenyonreview.org/issues/sf02/poliner.php
Posted via 167.176.6.8 on March 17, 2008 at 7:58 PM From Kim Vawter
Yes-coordination is something that I need to work on constantly. Thank you for your insightful information. I will work on out loud counting-singing--
Posted via 68.229.163.69 on March 17, 2008 at 8:13 PM From Stephen Brivati
Greetings,Posted via 210.172.213.190 on March 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM Tom- just beautiful;) Cheers, Buri From David Allen
Counting aloud can be productive or a distraction, depending on the individual. You are right, the basic pulse is by no means the totality of the rhythm. It is however a good starting point. However, if the basic pulse is wrong so will be the subdivisions. Also, there is no rule saying one must use the metronome to count only one beat per measure. Posted via 71.112.173.103 on March 18, 2008 at 3:24 AM Try setting it for eighth notes and see what happens. perhaps the rhythm is lost mostly at the end of a run of eighth notes, or only at the beginning. The point is the device is only a tool to help locate one's weaknesses which can then be addressed systematically. Incidentaly, I once spent two years in a combo playing with a "rhythm" machine. Yes, they have their limitaions, but for years afterward my sense of time was like a rock! One last thought: just as rests make up the other half of the music, so does rubato depend on a steady meter for contrast. From Stephen Brivati
Greetings,Posted via 210.172.213.190 on March 18, 2008 at 3:44 AM >The point is the device is only a tool to help locate one's weaknesses which can then be addressed systematically. Exactly. From Stephen Brivati
Greetings,Posted via 210.172.213.190 on March 18, 2008 at 3:51 AM sorry. Can`t edit here... I respectfully beg to differ about the voice being either useful or a distraciton on a kind of fifty fifty basis. I have not found a single person it hasn`t proved immensely useful with yet. I do think I addressed the sisue of basic pulse in my comments about walking etc. Burton Kaplan proposes a useful approahc to using the mm which I think is great. He actually recommends using the aslowest pssoible beat and having the vlick occuring every couple of bars or whatever. This seems to me to be the most musicla approach. Cheers, Buri From Sarah Hao
LOVE the title line!
Posted via 128.192.23.198 on March 18, 2008 at 2:25 PM From David Allen
Stephen,Posted via 71.112.173.103 on March 19, 2008 at 6:32 AM I agree, setting it to strike every couple of measures sounds like an exellent and creative use of a metronome. This is what we pay teachers for and where a good teacher's experience should be invaluable! This entry has been archived and is no longer accepting comments.
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